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Posts Tagged ‘Thai Work Permit’
21st September 2009
The Evolution of Thai Immigration Regulations
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It is interesting to discuss recent changes in Thai Immigration rules with the so-called “old timers” or “old Thailand hands” because they can remember far simpler times when Thai Immigration rules were far less byzantine and self-contradictory. That being said, Thailand was also a far less hospitable place in the past and a by-product of Thailand’s overall economic expansion has been a tightening of Thai Immigration regulations.
At one time, immediately following the second world war any entrant into the Kingdom was immediately accorded immigrant status which today would be known as Thai Permanent Residence. Although not Thai Citizens, Immigrant in the Kingdom were accorded a great many legal rights and privileges.
As time passed, a new immigration category was added: Non-immigrant. This category was initially intended for obvious tourists and other persons present in the Kingdom with non-immigrant intent. At this point it was still relatively easy to acquire permanent resident status in the Kingdom of Thailand. A visa holder classified as non-immigrant could generally convert their visa to the immigrant visa category within a few weeks and legally take up permanent residence (a process called adjustment of status in present USA visa parlance).
In the early to middle nineteen seventies, the sub-stratification of the non-immigrant visa category began. Within the non-immigrant visa category, the entrant was deemed to be in the Kingdom for a certain purpose. As a result there were Thai tourist visas, Thai business visas, Thai O visas, etc. Also, at this time, Thai Permanent Residence became extremely difficult to obtain when compared to the ease with which it could have been acquired in the past. Quotas were set regarding the number of applications that would be accepted for applicants of differing nationality. An applicant was also required to remain in the Kingdom for at least three consecutive legally unbroken years before an application for residence would be accepted.
It is also interesting to hear about times past because the Thai work permit was originally not an issue. For a long time, it was not necessary for a foreign national in Thailand to obtain a work permit in order to be employed in the Kingdom. In the nineteen seventies, this situation changed and any non-Thai national was compelled to acquire a work permit to be employed in Thailand. Originally, many people were granted lifetime work permits. In other cases, the work permit itself had to be renewed but the particulars of the permit were not reviewable. This meant that although one had to maintain the necessary fees, the Ministry of Labour could not cancel the permit for any reason other than failure to pay the administrative fee. All of this is very different than the system today where Thai work permits are constantly renewable and visa regulations seem to change with the wind.
15th September 2009
Thailand Work Permit Extension
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For those present in Thailand on a Thai business visa, or another type of Thai visa (except for the F visa), it is incumbent upon the foreigner to obtain a Thai work permit if he or she wishes to take up employment in the Kingdom of Thailand. That being said, Thai work permits are generally only granted with a one year validity. There are exceptional instances where this is not the case. For example, BOI companies can get work permits for their employees that have a validity of two years. In any case, if a foreign national has a work permit in Thailand and wishes to work past the permit’s initial validity, he or she will need to obtain a Thai work permit extension.
A Thai work permit extension is somewhat similar to a Thai visa extension. In both cases, the original document is issued with a short term validity (usually one year, although work permits can be issued for three, six, nine, or twelve months at the individual officer’s discretion). After the permit expires the foreigner will no longer be legally entitled to work in the Kingdom.
In order to obtain a work permit extension, the foreign national must submit an extension application to the Thai Ministry of Labour. Depending upon the makeup and details of the Thai company, it may be possible to submit a work permit extension application to the One Stop Service Center. Upon application approval the work permit will be extended according to the duration approved by the officer.
At each application for extension, the underlying employment will be reexamined to ensure the employment falls in line with the relevant provisions of the Thai foreign business act, the US-Thai Treaty of Amity, and the Thai Civil and Commercial code. There are many protective measures in Thailand which restrict foreigners from certain occupations. Accordingly, non-Thais are not allowed to conduct certain types of activity. Therefore, one must be careful when deciding upon the duties to be undertaken in any type of employment in order to make sure that none of the activities in the work permit are restricted under Thai law. Since work permits must constantly be extended, there is always a possibility that one officer will consider a foreigner’s occupation to be in accordance with Thai law, while another officer will consider the same activity to be in contravention of applicable employment regulations.
Working in Thailand is a daunting proposition for some as the bureaucracy can seem overwhelming. However, it is always a good idea to make sure that one is legally employed in the Kingdom as unlawful employment could lead to civil, criminal, and immigration sanctions. It should also be noted that the Ministry of Labour has proposed an increase in work permit fees. When the fee increase will take effect is still unknown at the time of this writing.
1st September 2009
Thailand Likely to Increase Fee for Work Permit
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Speculation abounds as rumors circulate about possible price increases for Thai work permits. A common misunderstanding regarding Thai law is that the right to work is built into a foreigner’s Thai visa. This misconception is particularly acute with regard to the Thailand Business Visa. It is easy to believe that a business visa would entitle the holder to work in the country, but in Thailand, as in the United States on a B1 visa, foreign nationals are only allowed to work after obtaining Thai Ministry of Labour approval in the form of a Thai work permit.
The Nation, in conjunction with Thaivisa.com is reporting on the matter, to quote their report:
“The Phuket Gazette has learned that recent rumors of substantial increases in work permit fees may be well-founded. Discussions are underway in the Department of Employment that could once again lead to massive hikes in these annual fees.”
This situation appears quite alarming to expats in Thailand because within recent memory another dramatic fee increase caused consternation due to the enormity of the difference in cost before and after the fee increase took effect. To quote further from the Thaivisa.com website:
“The last hike in work permit fees occurred in September 2002, delivering an impressive 200% hike, an event that triggered lively and colorful comments on ThaiVisa.Com, host to Thailand’s largest English-language Web forum. Some recent comments in that forum, albeit from sources undisclosed and/or unofficial, foreshadow this month’s hike as likely to be something well over 100%.”
Six thousand Thai baht is only roughly equivalent to approximately two hundred United States dollars and compared to the Immigration system in the United States, United Kingdom, or many countries in the European Union the fees are relatively low when one takes into account the fact that the bearer of a work permit is given the right to work in a foreign country. Even keeping these factors in mind, an increase of one hundred percent is still considerable and substantial, particularly for the small Thai business employing foreigners or for the expat living in Thailand and running a small business.
One explanation for this fee increase could be economic. Although not as hard hit by the worldwide economic crisis, Thailand still has had flat numbers in tourism and the economy is sagging. Further compounding the problem is the prospect of another less-than-optimal high season and the specter of new demonstrations causing foreign investment to flee in search of economies with more stable government. These factors could explain why this fee increase is being brought forward at this time as protectionist attitudes and the need for government revenues increases. It is uncertain if or when the fee increase will occur, but one thing is certain: some foreigners will always want to work in Thailand and they will probably always have to pay some sort of government fee for the privilege.
21st August 2009
Changing Thai Visa Status in the Kingdom of Thailand
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For those who opt to take up an expatriate lifestyle the issue of Thai visa status can be a crucial one. One’s Thai visa status is determined by the category of visa that is initially issued. Therefore, if a Thai consulate outside of the Kingdom of Thailand issues an applicant a Thailand Business visa, then that entrant’s visa category, and therefore status, is “B.”
In cases where a foreigner wishes to remain in Thailand in order to pursue legitimate educational objectives, then a Thai ED Visa is the category used to remain present in the Kingdom. For “miscellaneous” purposes and for reasons related to filial kinship, the O visa category is the proper Thai visa to acquire. Depending upon the reason for Thailand O Visa issuance, a Thai work permit may or may not be easily obtainable.
The ability to file for a Thai work permit depends heavily upon one’s status in the Kingdom. For instance, the holder of a Thai Education visa generally cannot obtain a Thai work permit. A situation such as this is one where change of status comes into play. A foreigner in possession of a Thai education visa will need to switch to another category in order to apply for a Thai work permit. An interesting corollary to this notion is the Thai F visa category which is a visa for official or quasi-official purposes (this is different from the US F visa, which is an education visa). Those who hold an “F” category Thai visa do not need to obtain a Thai work permit in order to work in the Kingdom because the right to work is inherent in the visa itself.
Visa status conversion can be a somewhat difficult process within the Kingdom. There is always the option of going abroad, obtaining a new visa, and reentering under a different immigration classification, but for those who do not wish to leave the country, this option may be unacceptable.
When changing categories in the Kingdom, the general rule is that the applicant for change of status must have at least 21 days of validity left on their current Thai immigration stamp. Changing status from one category to another can be more difficult depending upon the original category. Generally, the Royal Thai Immigration Police do not prefer to change an applicant’s status from visa exemption to a proper category. In these situations, they prefer that the applicant depart the country, obtain a proper visa, and return for a Thai visa extension at a later date. That being said, conversion from an exemption to a visa category can be achieved, but conversion is done at the discretion of the Royal Thai immigration officer.
It should be noted that change of status is different from obtaining a Thailand visa extension. For those who enter the Kingdom on a 60 day Thai tourist visa, it may be possible to obtain an extension of the visa for thirty days at the Immigration office. However, this does not mean that the applicant has changed visa category, only that they have increased the valid period of their Tourist visa. This is the same for those who enter the Kingdom upon a business visa and opt to extend the visa to have a year’s validity. The applicant remains in “B” visa status, but the validity period is extended.
1st August 2009
Reentry Permit for a Thai Visa Extension
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For those who are present in Thailand on a long term visa it may eventually become necessary to obtain a Thai visa extension. A Thai visa extension allows the bearer to remain in the Kingdom of Thailand for a specified period (usually 1 year). That being said, if the holder of an extended Thai visa leaves the Kingdom, then the visa will automatically expire upon departure. The Thailand visa extension will not extinguish if the visa holder obtains a reentry permit. A Thai reentry permit is similar to a reentry permit for a USA visa in that it puts the Thai government on notice that the visa holder wishes to return to Thailand and does not intend to abandon his or her Thai visa.
Only an office of the Royal Thai Immigration Police can grant a reentry permit. Generally, there are two reentry permit classifications: the single exit permit, and the multiple exit permit. The multiple reentry permit is more costly than its single entry counterpart, but it may be wise to obtain a multiple exit reentry permit even if one is not immediately intending to leave the Kingdom of Thailand. I would argue that paying an extra fee for the multiple exit permit would be prudent in order to forestall losing one’s visa status should some sort of unforeseen eventuality arise.
The Reentry permit should not be mistaken for the Thailand multiple entry visa. A multiple entry visa usually allows the bearer to remain in Thailand for 90 days at a time over the course of the visa’s validity. One major difference between the Thai visa extension and the Thai multiple entry visa is the fact that a person utilizing a multiple entry visa breaks their status every time the depart the country (even for a short period of time in the case of a “visa run”). The person remaining in Thailand on an extension retains the benefit of enjoying unbroken visa status.
Even with a reentry permit, the holder of an extended Thai visa is still required to report their address every 90 days at the Thai Immigration office that has jurisdiction over their place of abode. Technically, passing through the Thailand Immigration checkpoint with a valid visa extension and reentry permit is a sufficient substitute for the 90 day reporting requirement because Thai Immigration simply wants to make sure that the foreign national checks in with their agency at some point during any 90 day period.
A Thai reentry permit should not be confused with a Thai work permit which is necessary in order for a foreigner to obtain lawful employment in Thailand. One should be aware that just because one has a valid reentry permit, their work permit may expire on a different date from their visa and take measures to ensure that all of these documents are kept up to date.
(Note: This information is for educational purposes and is subject to change. No fiduciary relationship should be construed to exist between the author and any reader of this posting.)
21st July 2009
What Rights and Privileges Come With a Business Visa to Thailand?
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There are certain misunderstood aspects of the Thailand Business Visa that may need to be cleared up in order to properly understand how Thai Immigration views those non-Thai nationals in possession of a Thailand B visa.
First, a Thai business visa should not be inferred to impart the right to work in Thailand. Those holding Thai B Visas (Business), must still obtain a Thai work permit before they will be allowed to enjoy employment rights. Even then, Thai law, which in this respect is similar to United States Immigration law, restricts work authorization to a specified geographic location, namely the official address of the employer. That being said, it may be possible to get a second employer stamped into one’s Thai work permit and thereby allow employment with multiple organizations by officially authorizing such employment.
One very difficult concept for many to grasp is the idea that a visa does not confer the “right” to enter the country. This causes some confusion particularly with regard to United States Immigration. A USA visa simply gives the bearer the right to seek permission to enter the United States of America.
The Kingdom of Thailand views visas and travel documents in a similar light. In fact, it may be possible to be turned away at a port of entry in Thailand even where the prospective entrant has what is otherwise considered to be a valid visa. This issue became of acute concern nearly 5 years ago when operators began springing up throughout Thailand who offered to send one’s passport out of the Kingdom and have it sent back in with a new valid visa issued from an Embassy or Consulate abroad. In this situation, even though the visas were issued legally, the Thailand Immigration authorities at the port of entry began not only turning prospective entrants away, but also nullifying visas issued to someone who was in Thailand when the visa was issued at a diplomatic post abroad.
Another common mistake regarding Thai Business visas involves the definition of “multiple entry.” Specifically, does a one year multiple entry Thai visa imply that the bearer may remain in Thailand uninterrupted without being forced to leave? Put simply: No. A Multiple entry visa holder must leave at least every 90 days in order to remain in legal immigration status in the Kingdom. That being said, the multiple entry visa is commonly confused with the Thai visa extension. The extension allows the bearer to remain in Thailand for up to one year without being compelled to depart every 90 days. The downside of the extension is the fact that one needs to obtain a reentry permit in order to leave the country. The multiple entry visa allows the person holding it to leave the Kingdom and return on the same visa so long as it remains valid. Hence the name, “multiple entry.”
For further information, Please see the US-Thai Treaty of Amity as certain Immigration rights are created under this bilateral agreement.
(This is not legal advice. For such advice contact an attorney. No lawyer-client relationship should be assumed to exist between author and reader.)
27th April 2009
Thailand Visas: Extensions, Multiple Entry, Permanent Residence
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For the most part issues involving Thailand Business Visas can be broken don into three categories: Thai Visa Extensions, Thai Multiple Entry One Year Visas, and Thai Permanent Residence.
The Thai Multiple Entry One Year Business Visa
A multiple entry business visa is a long term visa that allows the holder the right to remain in Thailand for a period of up to 90 days per entry, but the visas validity is for 1 year. This means that one must make the obligatory “border run” e very 90 days in order to stay in status. A border run is the euphemism used amongst expats in Thailand (and Southeast Asia) when speaking about going to the border with the primary purpose not being to leave the country, but to maintain legal status. An odd “bonus” with regard to the long term visa is the fact that toward the end of the one year visa’s validity one can reenter the country shortly before the visa’s expiration and receive an extra 90 days on the back end.
The Thai Visa Extension
The extension of a Thai visa occurs inside of Thailand. One must file for an extension with Royal Thai Immigration. In order to obtain a visa extension based upon a Business Visa, one must show that the employer has at least four Thai employees for every foreign employee. Also, the visa extension applicant must have a Thai work permit. The business must also produce evidence showing a history of corporate income tax and VAT payment in order to obtain a visa extension for a foreign employee. Finally, should the extension be granted, the foreign visa holder must obtain a reentry permit in order to leave the country and remain in status upon the same visa. (The reentry permit is something akin to reentry permits for US Visas).
Thai Permanent Residence
Thai permanent residence is a difficult and time consuming status to obtain. In order to apply for permanent residence, one must have been resident in the Kingdom for three consecutive years on visa extensions (multiple entry visas will not suffice as one goes out of status at each border run). There are also salary requirements as well as a minimum Thai language proficiency requirement. Once permanent residence is granted the permanent resident will still need to obtain a Thai work permit should he or she decide to obtain employment. The positive aspect of permanent residence is the fact that permanent resident’s visa does not “sunset,” and can only be specifically revoked.
Note: Nothing in this post should be construed or inferred as creating an attorney client relationship nor should be used instead of legal advice from a licensed attorney in your jurisdiction.
26th April 2009
Thailand Social Security Benefits: Labor vs. Management
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For a foreign small business owner in Thailand in order to obtain a Thai visa extension the foreigner must hold a valid Thai work permit, the business must employ 4 Thais per foreign employee, and must get those Thai employees social security benefits. All of this is fairly straightforward, but a question arises when the non-Thai foreigner is the Managing Director of the company: is the Managing Director entitled to sign up for and receive social security benefits?
Many issues are left to the discretion of the Thai government officers so one of the frustrating aspects of doing business in Thailand is the fact that different offices interpret the Thai laws and internal administrative regulations differently. Case in point, some social security offices view the Managing Director of a Thai company as ineligible to receive social security benefits because he is not “labor,” and therefore is not someone who should be accorded labor protections under Thai law.
This is an odd stance to take particularly when looking at the issue from a common-law perspective because under the jurisprudence of most common law jurisdictions an incorporated entity is viewed as a legal person, separate and distinct from natural persons (even where a natural person is the sole owner or director of a company, or juristic person). Therefore, under the common law, the stance would probably be that the Managing Director works for the company and therefore is entitled to employment benefits like social security.
A counterargument to this position could be that although working on behalf of the company, this role is different than actually working “for” the company. As the Managing Director is, in a sense, the living embodiment of the company. It is a very semantic argument, but not one without at least some merit.
All of this begs the question: How does one obtain social security benefits for the managing director of a company in Thailand? Where the person seeking the benefit has already enrolled for social security, the benefit can be rolled over when the person becomes managing director. However, the person seeking to roll over the benefit must have left their previous employment no more than 6 month prior to roll over (and this time frame may be left to the discretion of the Social Security legal officer). Another method for obtaining the benefits in this situation is by delineating and distinguishing between Managing Director functions and functions as an employee. In order to do this, one must also show separate pay for the separate endeavors. At the end of the day, it is up to the officer’s discretion and it is always wise to consult a Thai lawyer before making any major business decisions in Thailand.
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An oddity of Thailand’s Social Security benefits scheme
14th April 2009
Thailand Work Permits
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Many people dream of living and working in Thailand. Some love the beaches, while others love the exotic atmosphere and “mai pen rai,” attitude of the Thai people. Still others see Thailand as a land of unexploited opportunity. Whatever employment opportunities Thailand holds, it is imperative that a non-Thai seeking employment in Thailand first acquire a Thai work permit before they begin working in the Kingdom.
The Difference Between a Thai Work Permit and a Thai Business Visa
Unlike some other countries, notably Korea, Thailand has a system in which a long term visa is a different document from a work permit. A common misconception is the belief that a Thai Business Visa gives the bearer the right to work in Thailand. A Business visa and a Thai work permit are two different documents issued by two different Thai government agencies. The Thai work permit is issued by the Thai Ministry of Labour while the Thai Business Visa is issued at a Royal Thai Consulate overseas and extended at a Royal Thai Immigration police office within the Kingdom.
Who Needs A Thai Work Permit?
In Thailand a work permit is a necessity for the expat wishing to earn a living in the tropical Kingdom. Many people in Thailand opt to work without obtaining the proper work permit. Still others work for companies and are told that a Thai work permit is not needed. This scenario is often played out where teaching is involved. Many teachers are told by their schools that they do not need a work permit. In reality, anyone engaging in any sort of labor in Thailand must obtain a work permit. Even those participating in charity work must get a Thai work permit.
How can a Thai Lawyer Assist in Obtaining a Thai Work Permit
A Thai lawyer can give specific advice regarding the steps that must be taken in order to obtain a Thai work permit. Also, a competent legal professional can accompany the non-Thai work permit seeker to the Thai Ministry of Labour (Labor) in order to submit the work permit application and ultimately obtain the actual Thai work permit. It is always recommended that those seeking a Thai work permit retain the services of a legal professional in order to expedite the application properly.
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