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13th May 2009

There are certain questions that seem to come up repeatedly when dealing with clients and prospective clients in Thailand. I thought that todays post could review some of the more frequently asked questions regarding the US Immigration process, specifically from Thailand.

1. Do two fiances need to have met before applying for a K1 visa?

The short answer: Yes. The Long answer: a couple should have met, but this requirement can be waived. In certain instances, USCIS will waive the meeting requirement if the applicant or petitioner can show a compelling reason why they have not met their fiancee within the past 2 years. That being said, it should be borne in mind that in order to have this requirement waived, a high threshold must be overcome in that the petitioner must show a compelling reason why he or she could not have met their fiancee. This burden of proof is on the level of showing “extreme hardship,” for waiver purposes.

2. Is it okay if my Thai fiancee speaks no English and only speaks Thai?

Strictly speaking, there is no language requirement with regard to US Immigration from Thailand. That being said,  having no shared language would raise issues as to whether the couple is in a bona fide relationship, because if they cannot communicate, then it could be inferred that the relationship is not genuine.

However, in cases where it is a Thai-American wishing to file a K1 application for a Thai and the couple shares a common language (Thai), this would not be as much of a pressing issue.

3. Can I file for more than 1 K1 Fiance Visa?

Yes, but with restrictions. Under the International Marriage Broker Regulation Act (IMBRA) restrictions have been placed upon multiple filers of K1 Visas. Basically, if one wishes to file for a second K1 visa within a 2 year period after initially filing for another K1 visa, then the petitioner will need to obtain a waiver of IMBRA restrictions from USCIS.

4. How much money do I need to make in order to prove an ability to support a Thai fiance or wife?

The amount of income necessary to prove an ability to support a Thai fiancee or spouse varies depending upon the number of dependent a US Citizen petitioner has. Check the Affidavit of support financial requirements to learn more. Also, if one does not meet the income requirement, then a joint sponsor may be utilized.

Can a Permanent Resident Apply for a K1 Visa?

No, only a US Citizen is entitled to file a petition on behalf of an alien fiancee.

Can I apply for a K1 or Marriage Visa for my Partner of the Same Sex?

Under Current law, Same Sex couples are restricted from many of the family based immigration categories. However, the Uniting of American Families Act is a piece of pending legislation. The UAFA would grant, “permanent partners,”  the same immigration rights as different sex couples.

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For more information please see:

Thailand K1 visa

Thai Fiance Visa

US Visa Thailand

(Note: Nothing Contained herein should be used in lieu of individualized legal advice from a licensed attorney. No attorney-client relationship (express or implied) is created between the reader and the writer of this post).

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12th May 2009

For general information about problems with a Us visa application please see: US Visa Denial Thailand.

The process of obtaining a visa for a loved one to the United States can be long and complicated.  At the end of the process, the last thing a prospective applicant wants to receive is a rejection and denial of the visa application. However, this can occur and in situations in which it does occur there are remedies. In other posts on this blog, the topic of waivers of inadmissibility has been discussed. This post will briefly recap the topic and add some new information about where a waiver application can filed and clear up confusion about what types of waivers exist under current legislation.

IMBRA Waiver with USCIS

One point of confusion that I have heard from prospective visa petitioners involves the IMBRA (International Marriage Broker Regulation Act). Pursuant to the IMBRA,  one must obtain a waiver in order to file multiple K1 petitions within a two year period. Although this provision denotes a waiver requirement for a multiple filer of K1 visas, this type of waiver is contemporaneously with the I-129f application for Fiance Visa. (It would be prudent to consult with an Immigration attorney if you believe you may be subject to multiple filer restrictions under IMBRA).

US Waivers of Visa Denial at the US Embassy in Bangkok, Thailand

Should the visa be denied at the US Embassy in Bangkok, then one must first decipher the type of denial. Technically a 221 g refusal is a visa denial, but from a practical standpoint it is merely a visa denial pending further documentation or information. Therefore, it is possible to cure whatever deficiencies exist and ultimately obtain the visa.

Sham Relationship or Marriage

If the consular officer makes a decision that a marriage of fiance relationship is not genuine, then the visa could be denied and that decision is not subject to waiver or appeal. This is why proving up the legitimacy of a relationship or marriage at the US Embassy in Bangkok is so important.

Consular Finding of Legal Inadmissibility

If the consular officer finds that the applicant for a visa is legally inadmissible then the visa will be denied, but the finding of inadmissibility may be remedied through the approval of a waiver of inadmissibility (most likely an I-601 waiver application).

Where is the Waiver Application Filed

It is possible to file a waiver application with the consular officer at the US Embassy. However, this method may be inefficient as the Embassy will send the I-601 waiver application to USCIS for adjudication. It may be faster to simply file an I-601 application with USCIS directly.

On another related note USCIS Bangkok has administrative jurisdiction over USCIS filed offices in  New Delhi, India; Seoul, Republic of Korea; Beijing and Guangzhou, People’s Republic of China; Hong Kong, Special Administrative Region of China; Manila, Philippines; and Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam. In its capacity as Bangkok’s District Office it has jurisdiction over Australia, Burma, Brunei, Cambodia, East Timor, Laos PDR, Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia, and New Zealand. Therefore an I-601 waiver application for a US visa to be obtained from an Embassy in any of these countries can be filed at USCIS Bangkok.

Thanks for reading and for more on US Immigration from Thailand please see:

K1 visa application

Fiance visa application

US Visa Thailand

(Please note: this writing should not be used in lieu of legal advice from a licensed attorney with experience in US Immigration matters. No relationship (attorney-client or otherwise) should be implied from reading this article.)

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12th May 2009

Prenups in Thailand

Prenuptial Agreements in Thailand are one area of law where diverse legal specialties intersect. The reason for this intersection is the fact that Prenuptial Agreements can involve many jurisdictions as well as substantive areas of law. As an example, if a prenuptial agreement is drafted and executed in Massachusetts, but the divorce occurs in California, what state’s law will govern? In what state will the agreement need to be adjudicated?

Further add the element of a Foreign Country’s laws being added into the equation and conflict of laws questions multiply exponentially. In the example of Thailand, under Thai law, the prenuptial agreement is registered with the marriage so that the agreement becomes part of the marriage contract. Therefore, if the prenuptial agreement is not registered with the Amphur at the time of the Thai marriage, then the prenuptial agreement is likely to be rendered unenforceable.

Conversely, in most jurisdictions of the United States, the prenuptial agreement need only be signed by both parties before the marriage takes place in order for the legal formalities to be met. So, what does one do about ensuring that a prenuptial agreement is properly drafted? In Thailand, it is essential to retain the service of firm that knows how to handle prenuptial agreement drafting where multiple jurisdictions are involved. There are many so-called “visa agents” and “visa specialists” who have gotten into the business of drafting prenuptial agreements and charge exorbitant rates for a document of dubious quality because it was not drafted by a legal professional. Always be leery of this type of operator.

Essentially, a prenup drafted for US jurisdictions and translated into Thai is a very effective method of asset protection, but it is not 100% guaranteed. Prenuptial agreements can be thrown out for many different reasons, but the most common reasons for a judge to throw out a Thailand prenup is the fact that it is unconscionable, one party truly did not understand what they were signing when they signed it, or the prenuptial agreement dictates terms on issues that the court feels it has no right to dictate (generally, child custody and child support payments are issues that a properly drafted prenuptial agreement should not mention).

One of the most important things to consider when obtaining a Thai prenup is to make sure that the Thai party had a translated version and had adequate legal counsel who was an independent operator.

(Nothing in this post is meant as a substitute for personal legal advice. No attorney-client relationship is created by reading this post).

For information about Us Immigration for Fiancees and Wives from Thailand, please see:

Fiance Visa Thailand or K3 Visa Thailand

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11th May 2009

Some Visas in Thailand do not confer resident status which can be beneficial for a number of reasons. Thai education visas and Thai tourist visas do not confer resident status and as a result accrual of time spent in Thailand on either of these visas will not count towards the necessary time requirements for Thai permanent residence.

Currently, Thailand is issuing visa exemptions (the right to remain in Thailand without a proper visa) for 30 days at an airport and for 15 days at a land border. However, Thai tourist visas are currently free to applicants at certain Embassies.

Thai “O” Visas or Other Visas, are issued to those who are either a family member of a Thai national, permanent resident, or visa holder, based upon a filial relationship to the visa holder. Currently, it is possible to obtain O visas for Non-Thai children, but for those children under a certain age, it is not possible to overstay in Thailand. This situation is similar in US Immigration where non-Citizen children cannot accrual unlawful presence in the United States. A child may be overstaying a visa, but the child cannot accrue time as a person present in the USA unlawfully.

At one time, Thai work permits were used as a basis for granting business visa extensions in Thailand. Before that time, a business visa extension could be obtained without obtaining a work permit, but this situation was considered unacceptable because it left many non-Thais in Thailand on business visas, some of whom were working, but without a work permit. For a period of time, the work permit was the foundation of the business visa extension application. Recently, the Thai work permit was “untied” from the business visa extension and as a result it is easier to obtain a work permit, but seemingly more difficult to obtain a Thai visa extension.

Many people forget that a Thai multiple entry visa is good until its expiration date and the visa holder will be granted a stay of 90 days upon entry. This leads to the situation where the non-Thai presents his visa to Thai Immigration one day before the visa’s expiration, but is granted entry into Thailand for nearly 90 days past the visa’s expiration.

(Please note: this post is not a substitute for personal legal advice from a licensed attorney. No lawyer-client relationship is created between author and reader.)

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10th May 2009

On weekends, we try (sometimes successfully) to add a bit of character to this blog by discussing things of a more general interest than Thailand Law or issues from the perspective of a US Immigration lawyer in Thailand. This post looks at legal history from jurisprudence promulgated as far back as ancient Mesopotamia to laws still on the books today.

The Code of Hammurabi

Hammurabi’s code acts as an early example of legal codes enacted in modern day Iran, Iraq, and Syria. Hammurabi’s code was somewhat draconian by today’s standards, but it is important because it is one of the first recorded systems of law in the world. Hammurabi was a King in ancient Babylon who decided that Babylonians needed some form of law in order to form a more efficient society.

This code is interesting because the code’s legitimacy is based upon Hammurabi’s assertion that he was spoken to by the gods and ordered to create a system of laws in his realm. In a preface to his legal code he states: “Anu and Bel called by name: me, Hammurabi, the exalted prince, who feared God, to bring about the rule of righteousness in the land.

The code of Hammurabi is especially notable for its “eye for an eye” method of dispensing justice. An example of this tit for tat legal reasoning can be seen in may sections of the code including this one:

“If a Builder build a house for someone, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built fall in and kill its owner, then that builder shall be put to death.”

I would not have been a carpenter or contractor in Hammurabi’s Babylon, the liability implications would have been too steep.

Roman Law

Of all the inheritances the Romans bequeathed on modern civilization, Roman law may be the bequest that has had the most impact down to the present day. Many of the Latin terms used in many countries to this day have their roots in Roman jurisprudence. From a practical standpoint, Roman law held firm sway over modern day western Europe until the end of the Emperor Justinian’s reign in roughly 530 AD. However, Roman law still had an indirect impact upon western Europe trough the Byzantine Empire, which continued the Roman legal tradition (albeit in the Greek language) until the mid 1400′s when Constantinople was finally sacked by the Ottoman Turks. Terms such as stare decisis and habeus corpus are still widely used in legal texts around the globe.

Common Law


The common law is the system of law used in England and spread throughout the world as the English commenced rapid and expansive colonization during the reign of Queen Elizabeth I. One of the major legal documents of the common law system is the Magna Carta imposed upon King John of England by his own Barons in an effort to curtail the powers of the Throne. The common law is distinguishable from the civil law system by the fact that the common law places a great deal of weight behind the previous decisions of judges. Whereas Civil law countries seem to place more weight behind the findings of legal scholars.

The common law is currently practiced and enforced in the following countries: United Kingdom, United States, Hong Kong, India, Ireland, New Zealand, Australia, Canada and Pakistan (to name only some).

Napoleonic Code

The Napoleonic code was created and enacted at the behest of Emperor Napoleon I of France. It is often heralded as one of the greatest legal achievements in history because the code went far in instilling a tradition of the rule of law on the continent of Europe (with reverberations throughout the whole world as a result of colonization). Before the French Revolution the legal system of France was based upon a patchwork system of local customs and special privileges based upon prior royal decrees and dispensations. The system was very inefficient and confusing to the common people. The legal system of the ancien regime was also manipulated by the upper classes for their own benefit often at the expense of the lower and middle class. The Napoleonic Code represented a codified system of laws applicable to everyone equally (except for maybe Napoleon himself). It spread throughout Europe following in the wake of the Emperor’s successes on the battlefield and as a result the Napoleonic Code would undergird Continental jurisprudence long after French Armies returned to France.

An interesting side note regarding the Napoleonic Code involves the State of Louisiana. Although it is part of the United States, Louisiana has a French and Spanish legal tradition due to the fact that it was once a colonial possession of both Spain and France. Louisiana law is based heavily upon Roman legal tradition, but it was also influenced by the Napoleonic legal tradition. To this day, Louisiana has a very different legal system than any of the other 49 US states and as a result the Louisiana bar examination is one of the more difficult in America.

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Please see:

K1 Visa Thailand or

Fiance Visa Thailand for information about US Immigration options for Thai Nationals

(Please note that nothing contained in this article creates a lawyer-client relationship between reader and author. Also, nothing contained herein should be used in substitute for legal advice from a competent lawyer.)

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9th May 2009

An odd question came up while I was in the office today. A married couple (one Thai and one non-Thai) was researching Thailand property ownership and after going over the usual information regarding Thai Leases, Thai Mortgages, and uses of Thai Limited Companies for property ownership a more interesting question arose. All of the questions surrounding their prospective property were routine, but then the conversation turned to Thai Wills and what would happen to the Thai Real Estate upon the death of the Thai husband.

Pursuant to sections of Thai law it is illegal for foreigners to own land without the written approval of the Thai Interior Minister. As a practical matter, obtaining written approval from the Interior Minister of Thailand is difficult, if not downright impossible. This brings up a conflict of laws because when a Thai will speaks during the Thai probate proceedings, ownership of property that was owned by a Thai could be passed to a non-Thai. What happens to this property since it is essentially illegal for a non-Thai to own land?

Thai law deals with this issue in a quintessentially Thai way. The law says that the property must be sold within 6 months of the closing of the Estate. In the United States (as well as other common law countries) probate of wills entails the closing of a deceased person’s estate. Generally Judges in common law countries wish to get estates closed as quickly as possible. In Thailand, Thai Judges are not as expeditious in getting wills probated and estates closed. The upshot is that estates will stay open for years and in some cases decades.

The practical implication of this failure on the part of Thai probate courts to quickly close estates creates a situation in which a foreigner in Thailand can maintain de facto ownership and control of an inherited piece of real estate provided the estate stays open. Should the de facto owner decide to sell the property, then all he or she would need to do is close the estate, legally inherit the property, and execute a sale. This process is probably more complicated than this and a possibility always exist that a court would close the estate quickly, but at present this does not appear to be the case.

(Please Note: Nothing written herein should be used in any way as a substitute for personalized legal advice from a licensed attorney. No lawyer-client privilege or relationship is executed between reader and author of this piece.)

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7th May 2009

What Happens After the K1 Visa Interview?

After the visa interview a fiancee will either receive a 221 g request for more information, an outright denial, or an approval of the visa application and a visa will be placed into her passport.  A frequently asked question: how long before she must use the visa to the USA? Generally, the answer to this question is 6 months from the issue date. Therefore, a Thai fiancee will need to present her visa at a port of entry in the USA within 6 months of visa issue or else the visa will expire and she will need to obtain a new one before presenting herself at the port of entry again. Getting past the port of entry is usually a smooth process and the worst inconvenience imposed upon the Thai fiancee will likely be the existence of a long line at the United States Customs and Immigration checkpoint.

So you have gotten your fiancee to the United States from Thailand using a K-1 Fiancee. She has gotten past the port of entry in the United States and she is currently in lawful K1 status in the USA: Now What?

A question many couples pose after completing the K-1 visa obtainment process is: does my fiancee need to leave the USA within 90 days? No, you and your fiancee must get legally married and apply for adjustment of status to permanent residence in order for your fiancee to remain in the US legally. While an adjustment of status application is pending the Thai fiancee is entitled to remain in the USA.

If the couple decides that for logistical reasons a marriage is not feasible, the the Thai fiancee will need to depart the United States before the visa’s validity expires.  An issue that arises with regard to this type of situation: under the provisions of the International Marriage Broker Regulation Act a US Citizen is only allowed to petition for one K1 visa every 2 years and if petitioning for more than one K1 within that time period, a waiver must be obtained. Generally, where there was good reason for failure to conduct a marriage and this reason is properly explained to the USCIS adjudicator, a waiver will be issued and the couple would be able to obtain a second fiance visa.

Please see US Visa Thailand for more information

(Please note: Nothing contained within this blog post should be construed as creating an attorney-client relationship between author and reader. This post is meant for informational purposes only and is not meant to act as a substitute for individual legal advice from a licensed attorney.)

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6th May 2009

Thailand O Visa

The Thailand O visa is something of an anomaly because it is truly a “catch-all” visa category. Generally O visas in Thailand are used by spouses of either Thai nationals or spouses of those present in Thailand on some other type of Thai Visa. The O visa confers work authorization insofar as it allows the holder of said visa to petition for a Thai work permit.

Although legally eligible to obtain a work permit, there are sometimes work permit difficulties for the O visa holder. As a practical matter, some Thai immigration officers and Ministry of Labour officials do not like to see work permits issued to those in Thailand on an O visa unless the O visa is based upon an underlying spousal relationship to either a Thai National, Permanent Resident in Thailand, or business visa holder (in the case of the spouse of a business visa holder, the O visa holder may have some difficulty obtaining a work permit).

Thailand Elite Card

The Thailand Elite Card program was a program designed with the idea of improving business tourism in Thailand. The card offered many benefits that would be convenient and useful for the prospective business traveler in Thailand. Most notably, there were some very positive immigration benefits conferred upon businesspeople holding a Thailand Elite Card.

At one time, there was a 3 year multiple entry visa conferred upon foreigners under the Thailand Elite Card program. Under this program applicants paid a one time fee of 1.5 million baht and received a card that entitled them to special benefits throughout Thailand. The program also had a special relationship with Thai Immigration that allowed card holder to obtain 3 year multiple entry non-immigrant B visas.

Recently, with governmental shakeups in Thailand the Elite Card program has been canceled with regard to immigration matters. Therefore, although one could conceivably still obtain the elite card, the immigration benefits of the card are no longer granted and therefore the special three year visa is no longer conferred upon card holders.

At present, it would appear to be quite difficult, if not practically impossible, to obtain a 3 year non-immigrant business visa to Thailand. That being said, one year Thai visas are still available for qualified applicants.

For more information please see:

Thailand Visa

Thailand Business Visa

US Visa Lawyer Thailand

(Note: All information in this post should be used for general purposes only. No attorney-client relationship is created between the reader and author of this post. This post should not be used as a substitute for individualized legal advice from a licensed professional.)

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5th May 2009

Buddhist marriage ceremonies are a very interesting aspect of Thai culture. Many Thai and American fiances choose to conduct a customary religious ceremony in order to convey to the world the couple’s mutual desire to remain together and express their commitment to their partner. As Thailand is not a common law country, the idea of “common law marriage,” is not a concept specifically recognized under Thai jurisprudence. Therefore, if a marriage is not duly registered at an Amphur office (a Thai government office with a mandate akin to a department of vital statistics in the United States), then Thai law is unlikely to recognize any type of domestic partnership exists. Therefore, from a practical standpoint, without a duly formalized marriage execution and issuance of a marriage certificate: no marriage exists.

A question often posed by prospective K1 Visa seekers is: if I have a ceremonial or customary marriage in Thailand, will that preclude obtainment of a K1 visa because the Thai fiance no longer meets the legal definition of “fiancee,” under relevant immigration law?

The question of Thai customary wedding ceremonies is not a cut and dried issue, but it can be said that without a registered marriage, then in the eyes of US Immigration law, the couple is not married. Therefore, a couple who have performed a customary wedding ceremony in Thailand, but have not executed a legal marriage will likely be able to obtain a Fiance visa.

From a US Visa and Immigration perspective, the odd upshot of conducting a customary marriage ceremony is the fact that the ceremony can act as evidence in further proving the bona fide nature of the underlying relationship. However, it may be wise to retain representation because explaining the legalities and details of a Thai-American couple’s relationship to the immigration authorities can require legal expertise. Basically an attorney would explain the situation and press home the fact that the couple is not legally married and therefore they meet the definition of fiances for the purpose of American immigration law.

A related question with regard to lack of marriage registration comes up with regard to children born of a Thai Citizen and an American Citizen. Many people ask if American Nationality can be conferred if the marriage was not legally formalized. The short answer to this question: if the child is born of an American Citizen, then the US Citizen’s citizenship will likely transfer to the child automatically upon birth. There are some limitations on this general rule where the US Citizen parent has not had presence in the USA for a statutorily defined amount of time and therefore cannot transmit Citizenship. In a case such as this in Thailand, an Immigration Attorney in Thailand should probably be consulted in order to understand the child’s US Immigration and Nationality options.

For information on US Marriage Visas from Thailand please see:

K3 Visa Thailand

US Marriage Visa

(Note: Nothing in this post should be subsequently used in lieu of individual legal advice from an attorney. No attorney-client relationship is created between the reader and author of this post.)

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4th May 2009

Since today is Coronation Day in Thailand, which is a National Holiday, I thought I would take this opportunity to list the holidays that the Embassy takes in Thailand. Many clients and prospective clients do not understand delays caused by holidays either because the holiday is exclusively Thai, and therefore not being celebrated in the United States, or a non-Thai holiday and the applicant doesn’t understand why the Embassies should be closed for an American holiday in Thailand.

There are good reasons why the US Embassy in Thailand ought to close on both Thai and American holidays, the most convincing rhetorical question: what would the Embassy actually be able to get done on National Holidays for either Thailand or the USA?

As a conduit for communication, trade issues, and inter-government cooperation the US Embassy in Bangkok (as with any Diplomatic post in a foreign country) has a “foot in both worlds,” when either of the governments are shut down, then the Embassy really does not have much to do. Therefore, instead of wasting time and resources they close in order to facilitate better service at another time. For US Visa purposes the closure of the Embassy means that it is not possible to obtain a visa interview on any day that the Embassy is closed.

Below are the Holidays for the US Embassy in Bangkok in 2009 (please note that as some of these holidays are based upon the lunar calendar they may change date from year to year):

Holidays for the US Embassy in Bangkok

(Also applicable to the US Consulate in Chiang Mai)

In the month of January the US Embassy is closed for the following holidays on the following days:

January 1: New Years Day

January 2: New Years Day

January 19: Martin Luther King’s Birthday

In the month of February the US Embassy is closed for the following holidays on the following days:

February 16: Presidents Day

In the month of March the US Embassy is closed for the following holidays on the following days:

No Holiday closures

In the month of April the US Embassy is closed for the following holidays on the following days:

April 13: Songkran (Thai New Year)

April 14: Songkran (Thai New Year)

April 15: Songkran (Thai New Year)

In the month of May the US Embassy is closed for the following holidays on the following days:

May 5: Coronation Day

May 8: Visakha Bucha Day

May 25: Memorial Day

In the month of June the US Embassy is closed for the following holidays on the following days:

No Holiday Closures

In the month of July the US Embassy is closed for the following holidays on the following days:

July 3: Substitution for July Independence Day (Closed on 4th of July when during the week)

In the month of August the US Embassy is closed for the following holidays on the following days:

August 12: Her Majesty the Queen of Thailand’s Birthday

In the month of September the US Embassy is closed for the following holidays on the following days:

September 7: Labor Day

In the month of October the US Embassy is closed for the following holidays on the following days:

October 12: Columbus Day

October 23: Chulalongkorn Day

In the month of November the US Embassy is closed for the following holidays on the following days:

November 11: Veterans Day

November 26: Thanksgiving Day

In the month of December the US Embassy is closed for the following holidays on the following days:

December 7: Substitute for His Majesty the King of Thailand’s Birthday (the 5th of December)

December 10: Constitution Day

December 25: Christmas Day

Please note that this list is not exhaustive as the US Embassy in Bangkok, Thailand may close for reasons unrelated to Holidays, or for any reason whatsoever, but the Embassy is generally open during the week during regular hours except for the holidays mentioned above.

(Nothing in this piece should be taken as a substitute for legal advice. By reading this piece there is NO express or implied attorney-client relationship created.)

For more information please see:

US visa Thailand

Fiance Visa Thailand

K1 Visa Thailand

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