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In a recent announcement posted on Thaivisa.com one individual renewing his visa in Thailand was taken aback by the fact that a Royal Thai Immigration officer wanted to test his knowledge of Thai before a Thai visa extension would be granted. To quote the posting directly:

“[I]went to pattaya/jomtien immigration today with all my paperwork to extend my ed visa (callen & walen) for the next 3 months. [A]ll ok on desk number 5 then she pass’s my paperwork to a desk behind her and moves me. [T]he lady starts talking to me in [T]hai, then tells me they are now testing applicants from there 2nd renewal onwards , ie after 6 months on a ed visa. [S]he stated my [T]hai was not up to scratch and that if i did not pass on the next renewal [I] would have my application refused next time. [S]he made it very clear they were now cracking down on ed visa applicants, not surprising really [I] guess with all the signs appearing claiming 1-10 year ed visa’s freely available.”

In recent years Thai ED visas have become extremely popular amongst those who wish to remain in Thailand for a long period of time without resorting “visa runs.” Many have speculated whether these visas would continue to be promulgated as easily as they have been up until this point. One of the popular reasons for obtaining such visas is based upon the applicant’s enrollment in Thai language classes. Until recently, Thai proficiency examinations were not required in order for foreign nationals to remain in the Kingdom on ED visas, but as the above quotation points out, this is no longer the case as Thai immigration officers seem to increasingly demand that applicants for ED visa renewal show some sort of proficiency in the Thai language.

A Thai visa classified as “ED” can be a useful travel document for a student in Thailand, but they are not particularly useful for those who wish to obtain a Thai work permit. Under current Thai immigration and labor regulations it is very difficult to obtain a Thai work permit if the applicant is present in the Kingdom on an ED visa. In some limited cases it may be possible to obtain a work permit on an ED visa if the work is in connection with the applicant’s school. For those interested in working or owning a business in Thailand it may be wise to apply for a Thai business visa as this document can be used, in conjunction with other documentation, as a basis for submitting a work permit application.

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For those who opt to take up an expatriate lifestyle the issue of Thai visa status can be a crucial one. One’s Thai visa status is determined by the category of visa that is initially issued. Therefore, if a Thai consulate outside of the Kingdom of Thailand issues an applicant a Thailand Business visa, then that entrant’s visa category, and therefore status, is “B.”

In cases where a foreigner wishes to remain in Thailand in order to pursue legitimate educational objectives, then a Thai ED Visa is the category used to remain present in the Kingdom. For “miscellaneous” purposes and for reasons related to filial kinship, the O visa category is the proper Thai visa to acquire. Depending upon the reason for Thailand O Visa issuance, a Thai work permit may or may not be easily obtainable.

The ability to file for a Thai work permit depends heavily upon one’s status in the Kingdom. For instance, the holder of a Thai Education visa generally cannot obtain a Thai work permit. A situation such as this is one where change of status comes into play. A foreigner in possession of a Thai education visa will need to switch to another category in order to apply for a Thai work permit. An interesting corollary to this notion is the Thai F visa category which is a visa for official or quasi-official purposes (this is different from the US F visa, which is an education visa). Those who hold an “F” category Thai visa do not need to obtain a Thai work permit in order to work in the Kingdom because the right to work is inherent in the visa itself.

Visa status conversion can be a somewhat difficult process within the Kingdom. There is always the option of going abroad, obtaining a new visa, and reentering under a different immigration classification, but for those who do not wish to leave the country, this option may be unacceptable.

When changing categories in the Kingdom, the general rule is that the applicant for change of status must have at least 21 days of validity left on their current Thai immigration stamp. Changing status from one category to another can be more difficult depending upon the original category. Generally, the Royal Thai Immigration Police do not prefer to change an applicant’s status from visa exemption to a proper category. In these situations, they prefer that the applicant depart the country, obtain a proper visa, and return for a Thai visa extension at a later date. That being said, conversion from an exemption to a visa category can be achieved, but conversion is done at the discretion of the Royal Thai immigration officer.

It should be noted that change of status is different from obtaining a Thailand visa extension. For those who enter the Kingdom on a 60 day Thai tourist visa, it may be possible to obtain an extension of the visa for thirty days at the Immigration office. However, this does not mean that the applicant has changed visa category, only that they have increased the valid period of their Tourist visa. This is the same for those who enter the Kingdom upon a business visa and opt to extend the visa to have a year’s validity. The applicant remains in “B” visa status, but the validity period is extended.

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There are many immigration options for those wishing to stay in Thailand on either a full time or part time basis. The Immigration option most familiar to short term travelers is the Thai visa exemption which allows a non-Thai national entry into the country without obtaining a visa. Many people who enter Thailand on a visa exemption believe they are actually on a visa. In reality, they have been granted lawful presence in Thailand without a visa.

Map to Thailand Immigration Bureau

Thai Education Visas

An Education visa in Thailand is very useful as a long term visa option particularly in light of the proliferation of affordable Thai schools that offer assistance in applying for a Thai ED visa. The major downside to the ED visa is the fact that there is no automatic right to work inherent to the visa. Also, the ED visa does not accrue time necessary to obtain Thai Permanent Residence.

Thailand Retirement Visa

A Thailand retirement visa is very useful for those who fit the criteria set forth under Thailand Immigration Law. One of the major criterion for obtainment of a Thai retirement visa is that the applicant be at least 50 years old at the time of application. Another requirement is that the applicant meet the minimum financial threshholds determined by the Thai Immigration Bureau’s internal regulations. A positive aspect of the Thai retirement visa is the fact that one holding such a visa does not need to go on “border runs,” every 90 days. However, a person present in Thailand on a retirement visa will not be able to secure a Thailand work permit.

Thailand Business Visas

As discussed in previous posts, a Thai Business visa is a very flexible option for those wishing to remain in Thailand in order to work, invest, or conduct business negotiations. The visa itself does not confer a right to work, a Thai work permit is still a necessity, but a work permit is usually easy to obtain where the visa holder has secured legitimate employment or has registered a Thai company.

Thailand Other Visas

The Thai “O” Visa, the “O” stands for other, is a designation for a visa that does not really fit into any of the aforementioned categories. The “O” visa is used for Thailand Family Immigration especially where a foreign spouse of a Thai national wishes to reside in Thailand. For those present in Thailand on an “O” visa, there may be some difficulty securing a work permit if the visa is not based upon filial realtionship to a Thai.

Thanks for Reading,

For information on US Immigration from Thailand please see:

multiple entry visa

Fiance Visa Thailand

Marriage Visa Thailand

US Embassy Bangkok

(No content written in this post should be used instead of consulting an attorney. No attorney-client relationship is created between the writer and any readers of this post).

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